57 replies to this topic

[Waslive]

whether can i with compressor to give the bass the power? if so it more or less what values of parameters threshold, ratio, attack, release? mainly i want to learn whether it is possible to give the bass the power with the help of compressor. whether limiter to connect before the compresor whether behind the compressor? can you somehow generally help the pupil hardtechno, to give some hints, tips? if it is not a problem, i please in English

[Rob Stalker]

Like bitcrusher said, you only need good EQ-ing for a powerful bass (Not compression), work with Filter´s and EQ´s to finetune your sound, sometimes a little bit distortion helps too

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[Waslive]

ok, thanks Bitcrusher and Rob Stalker for Your opinions

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[Amok]

it is possible to have them on the same bus indeed, but extremely difficult. you need to make absolutely sure, that the frequencys do not interfere.

generelly it's advisable to compress at an absolute minimum or not at all. if your bassdrum needs more power, give it more volume. if there's no room, then clean up the track and frequencys. any power you give to the bassdrum by compression you take away from everything else at the same time.

[janfleck.]

if you're compressing the kick,you have to work with late attack adjustments.
If the attack range is very small , the kick will lose a lot of "punch"
dont know how to say this in english..

[Waslive]

...it´s ok, if they sound a little bit thin, if you listen solo to each channel.

if i listen solo bass and bassdrum and they sound a little bit thin, then bassdrum and bass have good EQ'ing, good separation? have i understood well?

[Waslive]

ok, thanks for everyone for the help, tips and equalizer greetz

[STORMTROOPER]

yes /public/style_emoticons/default/).gif... a good eq for managing the frequencies between bass and bassdrum is the 560 made by api:

http://www.dv247.com...cts/19900_l.jpg

there are not many good graphic eq´s around, but this one is a beast. waves brought out a software
version of this eq.

That one looks real oldschool. You still workin with hardware, bitcrusher ?

@Topic: give the BD an EQ +10db on everything below 100hz and delete the bassline.

[St-S]

merkwürdig, kaum fragt mal einer in englisch kommen nur kompetente antworten. ich sollte auch nur noch englisch schreiben wenn ich was wissen will

[STORMTROOPER]

Maybe the reason is that they finally have to start thinking when writing in english. :-S

[waldhaus]

Maybe the reason is that they finally have to start thinking when writing in english. :-S

good point

[DataBlender]

Sub: 50-60Hz
Bass: 80Hz
Kick: 100Hz

Basically, you can do a bass from any kind of sondwave, just cut midd and high frequencies, EQ, Compression + Limiter and voila: round bass is here. You can use Tape Saturation for mild approach, especially works with contrabass for jazz and soundtracks, a little bit of top touch (1-4kHz) will make it sound closer and more alive (make sure nothing else is bitching in this freq range). To achieve industrial, distorted sound, just adjust your knobs accordingly with your favourite distortion tool and simply check on Spectralizer missing and resonating frequencies and work around again with your internal/external EQ however you are generating your signal. Lower down or just cut 300-400Hz because human ear doesn't accept this range and it's mostly sounds like a blur and track usually looses depth (Tiefe).

[St-S]

Maybe the reason is that they finally have to start thinking when writing in english. :-S

or the guys who can only talk about something shitty like schranz.dll or anything else stupid couldn't speak english

[STILLER]

Maybe the reason is that they finally have to start thinking when writing in english. :-S

or the guys who can only talk about something shitty like schranz.dll or anything else stupid couldn't speak english /public/style_emoticons/default/lol.gif... /public/style_emoticons/default/heureka....

thats the point


good hints in this topic but i have to say that a little compression espacially at kick mixer wouldnt harm

[TekkRokka]

Sub: 50-60Hz
Bass: 80Hz
Kick: 100Hz

do i put them one upon the other ? or what do u mean ? cause i have never worked with bass and subbass before....but i think i should do. is that so necessary to get better sound and getting more professional ?

[DataBlender]

Sub: 50-60Hz
Bass: 80Hz
Kick: 100Hz

do i put them one upon the other ? or what do u mean ? cause i have never worked with bass and subbass before....but i think i should do. is that so necessary to get better sound and getting more professional ?

To work on these frequencies first of all you need to understand what is + how works SUB-WOOFER.
0 - 20Hz technically doesn't exist because only insects, animals or your psyche can feel it.
20 - 150hz soundsystems and vinyl cutting plants practice same method by converting frequencies to MONO.

[ZmoKingZ]

If you search a good comp for bass drum which is easy to use, try PSP Old Timer...

Greetz

[STORMTROOPER]

To work on these frequencies first of all you need to understand what is + how works SUB-WOOFER.
0 - 20Hz technically doesn't exist because only insects, animals or your psyche can feel it.
20 - 150hz soundsystems and vinyl cutting plants practice same method by converting frequencies to MONO.

I once heard that the self resonance of a human's stomach is around 33hz, which means: if you do a subbass
at that frequence band, and send it through a real loud and good soundsystem, you could make a whole party womit !
We should try that sometime.

@Topic: Bass Compression - yes, but not Bassdrum Compression. That normally causes more harm than does good.

[ViperXXL]

To work on these frequencies first of all you need to understand what is + how works SUB-WOOFER.
0 - 20Hz technically doesn't exist because only insects, animals or your psyche can feel it.
20 - 150hz soundsystems and vinyl cutting plants practice same method by converting frequencies to MONO.

I once heard that the self resonance of a human's stomach is around 33hz, which means: if you do a subbass
at that frequence band, and send it through a real loud and good soundsystem, you could make a whole party womit !
We should try that sometime.

@Topic: Bass Compression - yes, but not Bassdrum Compression. That normally causes more harm than does good.

thats not true it is possible to make people feeling sick or they getting a little dizzy but womit will maybe do 1 of 10000
they did test this in mythbuster at around 130db (with good earplugs of course)

@ topic - everything is said - do not overcompress and do EQ and Filter work

[Amok]

womit = vomit



And yes, we should try that. Or find the brown tone

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[Waslive]

very thx friends

[STORMTROOPER]

Wombat ! :-)

@Viper: maybe they didn't get the exact frequency. I think due to different sizes the resonance frequnecy
differs a bit for each individual. But techniqually it shouldbe possible, as (i think) everything has a resonance
frequency to which it responds. But simply imagining that is fantastic... :-)